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March 28, 2006

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Abiola

Looked at in a certain light, it isn't at all surprising that more Christians should favor torture than secularists. Consider that their very deity is an enthusistic endorser of torture: what is the Hell of the New Testament but a great big torture chamber?

Frank McGahon

Indeed: if someone believes in a) an afterlife and b) unceasing, unspeakable torment for sinners/unbelievers in that afterlife and remains relatively blasé about the fate that awaits numerous people in their own circle - friends, neighbours, co-workers, family members after their death - why should they be bothered about what happens to a bunch of strangers before their death (in many cases, only moments before) in a faraway land of which they know little (so to speak).

Jim

"No such consolation is available to the atheist."

And why would he need one? All he would have to watch out for would be vengeful survivors or heirs, and there are methods for that.

Frank McGahon

My point is that the atheist 'knows' that this life is all there is. Now, that knowledge in itself doesn't stop him becoming a heartless misanthrope (as I can attest!). But a religious person who is trying to be good - and Abbot Arnaud Amaury had convinced himself that he was serving the greater good, including those catholics he had butchered: he 'knew' that they would simply go to heaven - is still capable of great evil.

Fergal

To be fair to Sullivan, though he's a hopeless god-botherer himself, he's been quite good in recent days on the rights of atheists.

Frank McGahon

I suppose it's just that it's an unthinking thing. Many people share Sullivan's apparent intuition that belief in god and behaving ethically/morally are somehow necessarily linked and I don't expect that he has given it too much thought.

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